After her 4th year at Medical School, Ana Echeveste realized she didn’t want to be a medical doctor. Interested in Health and helping people, she heard about Chiropractic, and not knowing nor understanding too much what it really was, she began a new journey at Life University, where she graduated Summa Cum Laude in December 2007. Passionate about vitalism, she embraced the Philosophy, the Art and the Science of this amazing profession in her new life.

Two major events in her health only made her have more passion for the philosophy and principles this profession is based on. .

She runs a vitalistic family practice in San Sebastian (Northern Spain) since 2008, was part of the board of the Spanish Chiropractic Association and taught Toggle and Thompson at the Barcelona College of Chiropractic for 9 years. She runs a coaching group, has been leading technique workshops in Europe and participated as a speaker in International events in Spanish and English. Through her teaching, seminars or in her practice, her mission is to inspire people to live according to Universal laws and from the Inside Out.

“Chiropractic Philosophy changed my life and I owe it to people to expose them to the potential we all have within”

TRANSCRIPT

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LUKE MILLETT (PRODUCER):  Hey guys, welcome to episode 576 of the Chiro Hustle Podcast. I’m your producer, Luke Millett, and here’s your host, James Chester.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  So today we have the opportunity of interviewing Dr. Ana Echeveste, and if you want to hear how she created a course and a movement about living from the inside out, stay tuned for the full episode. Welcome back. This is another episode of the Chiro Hustle Podcast. Today it’s international, and we have Dr. Ana Echeveste coming on, and I’m really excited to have her onto the show today. She’s over in northern Spain, and I asked her before the whole thing happened, like, what could we accomplish today? So, I’ll share those notes with you, what she would like to accomplish on today’s episode of the Chiro Hustle Podcast. This is episode 576. Before we jump into her topics, I’ll let you know our big why. Why do we do what we do over here at Chiro Hustle? Well, first things first is protecting freedom of speech. I think that we can’t ever take that for granted and be an international voice for Chiropractic. We have to talk very specific about what Chiropractic is or what it isn’t. So, freedom of speech is very important. Medical freedom, we all benefit from that. Not just people in America, not just people in Spain, but everywhere. Everyone benefits from medical freedom, so our show protects that and keeps integrity within Chiropractic for those purposes. Family health freedom. Medical freedom and family health freedom, they’re not the same thing, quite similar, but have the right to choose sovereignty over your choices for your family, your kids, your loved ones, your elders have sovereignty. Medical freedom is something very important that is another reason why our show, I believe, gets so popular, is because people say, wow, you guys believe in something that I’ve never heard about. You guys are talking about things I’ve never really focused on. So, we’ll get a bit more philosophical in the intro. We do protect B.J. Palmer Sacred Trust. If you do not know what that means, go and find out what B.J. Palmer’s last words were. Find your favorite search engine and find it out. Just stop the interview right now. Go find out B.J. Palmer’s last words, the Sacred Trust of Chiropractic. You’re going to learn more about Chiropractic than you previously did, I guarantee you. And then we do support Subluxation-Based Chiropractic. There’s been venues that I spoke to that said, hey, there’s three things you can’t say when you talk to our students. Subluxation and intelligence, universe and intelligence. So, I said, great. Now that you guys brought me here to speak at your university, the first things that I’ll tell you about are Subluxation and intelligence and universal intelligence. So, we do believe that when Man or Woman the physical is adjusted, it connects them to Man or Woman the spiritual. Dr. Ana, welcome to Chiro Hustle.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Thank you very much. Privilege.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Yeah, there’s a lot that I pack into that first two minutes, right?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Yeah.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  And a lot of it’s necessary. You know, when you’re in agreement with people, you see a lot of head nodding. And I think that we say things on such a pace that it needs to be said, because if people only listen to the first two minutes, then they’re going to understand Chiropractic from a perspective, a journalistic perspective and a freedom of speech perspective and what are we doing to take care of our family’s perspective? And then we get philosophic and they’re like, well, what more is there about this Chiropractic? What is a Subluxation? We just spark a lot of interesting topics for people to jump into. And one of the things I love most about what we do is our guest interviews. And the, I think the most impactful thing I’ve learned over six years is the story. Tell the story, tell the story, tell the story. So your story, medical school decided Chiropractic was the way. Let’s tell everybody, friends, family, colleagues, people that might listen to this in 10 years, how you got to the point of becoming a chiropractor?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Well, before, if I may, you said, you talked about freedom. Freedom does not come without individual responsibility. And this is huge. Thank you for talking about freedom, because I think chiropractic is about individual responsibility as well, this whole inside of paradigm. So this is going to be fantastic. This 35, 40 minutes or whatever it is is going to be amazing. So also talking about individual responsibility, I went into medical school. My dad was a medical doctor and I always wanted to help people. So I never really thought about any other thing than being a medical doctor wanted to help people. And in my fourth year doing rounds, I had actually a crazy experience. But anything about vitalism or anything like that, but we were visiting the really sick people at the hospital after doing a thoracic surgery actually. And we went into a room. There was a guy, very sick terminal cancer. And he had the biggest smile ever. And he looked at the surgeon. I was just a student and it looked at him as like, doctor, I’m feeling great today. And the very famous big ego thoracic surgeon looked at him as like, that’s great, but you’re dying anyway. And there was something that crushed my heart inside. It just turned around. I went home, sat my dad and my mom. I looked at them as like, if this is what being a medical doctor is like, this is not for me. I actually considered either your doctor or family practice in the middle of a small town. My dad was a very humanistic and vitalistic medical doctor, cardiologist. And he had warned me and my brother, who’s a cardiologist, don’t go into medicine is losing the ideals of medicine. So I quit. It was not for me. And my grandfather was going to a chiropractor with my dad laughing at him for 15 years. I don’t know if it’s called karma or not. And it’s like, he gives health talks. Why don’t you go to one of them? So I went to one of the health talks and he rationally, intellectually made sense, nervous system spine. And I ended up at live university. I was going to go to Palmer and then the whole thing with live university happened and it was life was building up again. I went ended up at life. Georgia and Iowa, it was made, I’m from Spain, it made no difference to me. So like, okay, I’ll go to life. I was not adjusted. And my first adjustment was my first quarter, the fourth week, I think, in the comments in the apartments by an eighth quarter student. She looked at me as like, how are you in chiropractic school without getting adjusted? And my response was, I could have been a surgeon without any surgery at all. Like, that was my paradigm. I had no clue what it was. From day one, from that induction welcoming session, I felt home. And I fell in love. Well, I remember that first adjustment, how I woke up the next morning, by the way. But the philosophy got me from day one. I had been struggling with epilepsy since I was 14 years old. And I grew up with, you cannot do this, you cannot do this, you cannot do that blah, blah, blah. And suddenly I started hearing about not moving away from something, but moving towards something better that I didn’t know it was called a little genetic model. But I started hearing about potential that I could do things, limitations of matter, limitations of time. But I could do things that, wow, and it changed me completely. The way I lived my life and the way I saw myself and I fell in love.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  18 years later, chiropractic love story. I love it. First adjustment, chiropractic college. Yeah, I love the stoic reality. Like I can be a chiropractor, I don’t have to be adjusted first. But then you realize that like the stoic reality is, wow, I missed it. I missed out on having my lights turned on because I’ve lived in this den existence. And I think that when people come to that terms, like their ego once again comes involved and they’re like, I don’t need that until today. And now I want a lifetime of that. So it’s the old things. We don’t know what we don’t know. And when we change, everything changes around us. So that’s the paradigm shift of a lot of people that are in need of clarity and direction. And obviously we all drive through every barricade of life that we can. And we’re like, oh, don’t believe what dad said. Oh, don’t believe what, you know, the market’s telling. No, don’t believe any of that stuff. We’re just going to keep driving right through the barricades of life. And then we realize that we have to make our own decisions and become accountable for our own path. And then, you know, we get to talk about closing this gap. I know there’s a couple of topics that you want to touch on today is closing the gap of chiropractic insight out to tell the truth and the essence of practice. And what is insight out? Because I think a lot of times people, they get to this point of chiropractic. They are great adjusters. They believe in the philosophy and then somehow they become everything about a chiropractor.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Yeah. We all want to build big practices. I mean, there’s many reasons for that. There’s like a mission that we have. We want to serve people. There’s a business. We want to make money and there’s ego involved. I want to have bigger practice than like whatever reason is we want to attract people. And if I had to give advice to anyone, it’s just close the gap. Whatever your essence is, whatever you see, however you seek chiropractic, what is chiropractic, chiropractic for you? Share that story. And that takes a lot of courage. For example, for me, I’ve been in practice 15 years. And since day one, when I started understanding chiropractic as a facilitator of my innate driving my body, my soul, the way I perceive the world, the way I respond to what happens to me emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually. Day one, I didn’t know how to share that in practice. And then you talk about the spine and then you talk about, of course, hernia here and there and neck pain. And then my job has been to become a better communicator, closing that gap of how I seek chiropractic and how I live chiropractic in my life and telling them the truth. Yes, you have back pain. Yes, you have a hernia or allergies or you have depression. I don’t care what it is. I understand people don’t come to me normally with, I want to express all my innate and tell them what I do as a facilitator. I remove subluxations so that you can express all you are. And I have no clue. Literally, that’s what I tell them. I have no clue what’s going to happen when you express all that you are. Am I going to heal? I don’t know. And my conversion is like more than 99% from first visit to report if I need to start in care and have really high retention. This is, and I don’t think it’s because I do better than any other one. It’s because it’s my truth. I choose the gap between how I seek chiropractic and what I tell them.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  It opens up a lot of ideas for me hearing you explain this. First things first, you being a coach, why do you think some practitioners make it and some practitioners don’t?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Probably these main reasons. I see a lot of people trying to like copy the tactics which are needed. We need the tools to get better at communicating with the first visit. We need the technique. We need to be good adjusters. If you don’t understand the why, why you’re doing things, the how, it’s important but it’s not that important. So why we really need to work on is why we’re doing what we’re doing. And if you have a mechanistic approach to practice, practice that. But if you really in your life think that chiropractic is holism, vitalism, humanism, share that because if not, there is an incongruency between how you live it and how you’re sharing it. And that’s not going to work.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  One of my favorite chiropractors of all time, most people will never know who he is. I’ve never interviewed him. His name is Patrick Smith. And he did a day one, day two process that I got a chance to see. He’s in my first movie chiropractic, the documentary. He really touched me because when he did his patient orientation with somebody, he would tell them, my name is Dr. Patrick and you are, and I’m going to be your chiropractor for the rest of your life until one of us blows up. And you know, it’s humor, but it’s also real. And I think you have to go back to the essence once again of what your message is and how you want to connect with that person. And then it’s retaining and having good attention, like you said. Because our relationship bond, it’s a very intimate profession. It’s the essence of Napoleon Hill become known, liked and trusted. But I think in chiropractic, we have to go a different level. We have to become known, loved and trusted. And like, like is something very transactional. When you love the experience, that’s when you become the referral source. That’s when you start to say, wow, my kids are looking for an opportunity to, go to university. Maybe they should be chiropractors. And I don’t know whoever jumped up chiropractic with these two ideologies, the vitalistic and mechanistic, but can’t we just go, can’t we like elevate and move beyond such a small way of thinking of one or the other?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  For me is about congruency with a person. And there’s a beautiful story. It was, I was about to share it maybe later, but this is not about changing for me, changing the profession or changing the philosophy. If we want to change either the profession, the world or humanity, the only thing that’s going to work, I don’t know if you stay, do you know the story of the man that tried to change the world?

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Let’s share it with them because I probably need a refresher too. Basically, it’s like a guy that- I think it’s a David Bowie song, The Man That Sold the World.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Well, basically, it’s that guy that looks at, I mean, he could happen to any of us. You look at society, it’s like, oh my God, everything is a disaster. So I’m going to try to change these in that. He was so frustrated because there was nothing changing. And then he decided to go a little bit smaller. So then he tried to change his family and his community. Nothing changed. And at the end he said, you know what, I’m going to look within and I’m going to try to change myself. And that worked. So basically, that’s the whole inside out thing. And I’m going to start with myself. For me, chiropractic is about an inside out paradigm. So it has to start with me. But I would never judge you if you think that chiropractic should be these or that. I’m not even going to waste my time. But you probably have a role in this life. Do your thing. Don’t try to change me. And if you have really good in podcast or marketing, shine. Do your thing. I’m good at what I do. I’ll do my part. And if everybody focuses, I’m not trying to be better than the other person. Just shining at their role will do much, much better.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Well, we will win a chiropractic championship. You’re kidding me. You’re kidding me. You’re kidding. So people, I hear this a lot. And I think everybody has a different resonance with it. But above down inside out, it’s ADIO. It’s some of the most fundamental chiropractic slogan philosophy out there. What does that mean to you?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Above down is universal intelligence. I mean, it comes from what is like some people say it’s God. For me, it goes beyond I do believe in God on that. Oh, there is. But for me, it’s something different because you don’t have to believe in God, to believe in universal intelligence. But it comes down to us and it expresses through us.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  And then inside out, we get a chance to cultivate the power of being clear with our nervous system.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Yes, because it’s something that doesn’t come from the outside. And I see this a lot. And I don’t mean these in a judgmental way. I think there’s a lack of clarity because I’ve been there. I see this a lot with recommendations, for example, when we talk about exercise or nutrition or how to sleep better or economics in chiropractic, for example. We, I think it’s great information because we want to help people take better care of themselves. But we’re taking all the power from the wisdom of innate and you can teach people the importance of vitamin D from an outside in natural approach or from inside out. I can tell you, you know how you have to take vitamin D. It’s important because it’s vital for your immune system for blah, blah, blah. Or I can tell you, you know that your body takes the sun and is able to synthesize from your, the fat that you eat or the fat that you have is able to synthesize vitamin D to optimize the function of your bones and your, you know, always teach the wisdom of the body. And sometimes you don’t have enough. Then you can take a little bit, but always teach that inside out approach of how smart is your, is your body the same with exercise or any other pill. Is the pill going to do that or is the pill going to optimize what you already have inside? And that’s the key because at the end of the day, if you tell them how smart they are, they’re going to want to take care of themselves forever. That’s a, that’s a fine line between that inside out and outside in natural approach. Am I doing something to stimulate inhibit blah, blah, blah, or am I going to facilitate a function in the body? That’s like the typical sentence. Let your medicine, let your food be your medicine. Is it in English? You can translate.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Yes, yes, yes.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Food can help the body, the wisdom of the body work better or it can actually put more toxin so the body has to waste more energy detoxifying, but body has the medicine already inside by the chemistry, you know, and that we made nothing works.

 

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JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Well, I’ve heard this said before and I’m going to make a couple, you know, additions to what you just shared is it’s not the seed, it’s the soil. And some of the quickest bio hack or human performance exercise that somebody could ever do. Like you want to get the vitamin D to start producing from the fat cells in the body through the sun. Well, eight minutes every morning, first sunlight, go sit down and touch your feet to the earth and let your upper torso be exposed to the sun and do eight minutes of breath work. And that would be the fastest way that you can get chemistry to start organizing properly in your body and then get your nervous system checked by a chiropractor. Make sure that there’s no misalignment or self-luxation in the spine. Correct those. And now the body is self-healing, self-regulating organism and the body, the power that made the body heals the body and then the philosophy actually stands true.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  That’s the key. I would go once that farther if I may. It’s not even the seed or the soil. It’s the life that’s in the seed. And I did that game with my, with my knees. She was 12 at the time. What’s the difference between the being and the, you know, little stone that we had when we planted it, what makes it grow? She was like, the water. And I was like, oh, the stone is no growing. It’s like the soil. I’m like, the stone is no growing. I was like, at the end, she was 12. I was like, the seed is a, the being is a life. You’re like, that’s the difference. Because a dead body will never take that vibe. You can put a dead body by the sun. Obviously, it cannot do breath work. Nothing happens. The main difference is that innate, the presence of innate intelligence. And we keep forgetting that.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Life force, that’s, that’s it. So we’ve been talking a lot about health and personal responsibility and ways to access better health through chiropractic and the, the, the, big idea of chiropractic, which I think we’ve done a really beautiful job of explaining from my perspective and your perspective. Now let’s talk a little bit more about you, like the practitioner. What are you doing for your health and your family’s health? Because I think that would be a great takeaway for people too. Like, okay, you believe in this. What do you do now?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  I think the main thing for me is focus on the five pillars that I have. Actually, I created an acronym for the five pillars. One day random when I was teaching at the BCC, the Barcelona College, and it comes up as the world health in Spanish, Salud. So it’s nervous system. So food, exercise and rest. And I think the key is, I think to be gentle with ourselves. I think nobody is great with the five pillars. So this is like very DeMartini-like. I think we all have natural, organic, we’re drawn to some of the pillars. And for me, meditating Zen, I’m very, I do work with a Zen master in connection with my family, it’s, oh, in with my partner. And with my friends, it’s very easy. And intellectual, I love learning. I’m always learning and reading and taking courses, etc. Those are my easiest pillars. So the other ones, I’ve just tried to make my life much easier. So I do have a gym partner or like somebody that organizes my food or something like that. So we know the information. So I try to focus always. And I try to understand why I don’t do the other things that I should do. So like understanding the emotions or the mind of people, which has helped me a lot in practice, understand why people don’t do what they should do. And I try to know myself. So a lot of personal development a lot.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Well, you know, there’s a lot, like you said, closing the gap. There’s a lot that goes into closing the gap with running a successful chiropractic center. But there’s a lot that goes into closing the gap with who we are and how much congruency do we bring to that baseline of closing the next gap. So I think it is smart. You have to know that like as you get on a train, there’s different stops. And that if you get out the wrong stop, that’s a mistake. And you have to get back on to get to where you’re going next. So a lot of times that’s emotional. We get off at the wrong stop a lot with our emotions. We got off at the wrong stop a lot of times with our mindset. We get off at the wrong stop so many times with our health and what we eat and how we take care of ourselves and our accountability. So I think that people just deemed it to stay like you said congruent. And they have to have a consistent routine. I found that the highest level producing chiropractors I’ve ever met have a high functioning morning routine. And you know, they have a good hierarchy of God chiropractic family. And somewhere in that order, they learn what’s most important through the journey of that path. And then if they stay more in the philosophical stance of chiropractic, they stay more on to a chiropractic practice rather than a medical center. So I think that people really have to be clear once again, back to what you said, clear on what they want and what they want their life to be like and then what they want their practice life to be like because ultimately, that’s becomes you, the seed.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  I only concerned with this and I’ve changed through years. I went very radical and this is me. That’s why personal development is important for me because I’ve discovered my patterns and I went through intermittent fasting. I spent probably because of the epilepsy. I tried to remove all the medication at some point and keto for two years straight and like I went very radical in certain areas and it didn’t work emotionally. And I think that was probably because for me, it was outside in approach. Like somebody told me it was the right thing to do and I was not doing what I thought it was best at the time. And when I went into doing what I thought it was best for me, accepting that perfect, nobody does anything perfect. I started working through a lifestyle that was more congruent and more at peace and big change.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Well, there has to be a shift in satisfaction. Like if we go on a weight loss journey and we’re like, we’re going to go and lose 20 pounds and our life is miserable through 90 days to 120 days and we don’t get any satisfaction. We’re going to go back to comfort. And that’s a hard thing to correct with our behaviors over time to continuously do something for two years and it really doesn’t satisfy us.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  And you’re going to feel like shit about yourself. And that’s more love. You know what I mean? It’s like there’s got to be that balance. Where are you coming from when you choose certain things?

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Once again, it’s like going into a practice model and copying someone else because it works for them. We have to find our own path and our own journey. And that’s authenticity to you, the doctor, to your practice, to your family. And I think that that’s the big quest that a lot of people are on this hero’s journey of life. Like how do I go back home and be comfortable with myself?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  And there’s a lot of stuff, all this stuff going on in this profession, probably in other professions, but I’m not part of other professions that compressing game within numbers. Or social media. All that guy looks like has everything that what I want. You know what? Stop looking outside and just leave congruent. And at the same time, innate knows how to heal a wound. Innate knows what’s better for you as long as you’re willing to do the work. And that takes us back to that individual responsibility. Freedom comes from the work of doing what needs to be done in every single minute with it’s not always an easy choice, but normally it’s not. But it does take a lot of work.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  And the backside of that is the people that I’ve met through doing 1200 interviews. The ones that really like to talk about numbers are the ones that are seeing 200, 150, 300 people a week. The ones that are seeing 100 or less, they’re more shy, they’re more modest, they’re more unsure of themselves. And it’s okay to be wherever you’re at. And it’s okay to ask for help. I think that that’s a big part of this too, is once somebody becomes a doctor, there’s a lot on their shoulders. And it’s okay that if you’re seeing 15 patients a week to ask for help, it’s okay if you’re seeing 35 patients a day to ask for help. It’s okay if you’re seeing 400 a week to ask for help. I think that that’s a big part of this profession too, is the incongruency of just asking somebody for support and thinking you have to do it all by yourself because it’s a lonely world out there when you don’t have a community. And that’s what I love most about chiropractic. This chiropractor’s build community. They build network within the people and then they become a referral based chiropractor and they don’t have to go out and always, you know, hunt every marketing strategy down to get new patients. And that’s like I was saying to you earlier, you’ve been a chiropractor 15 years. It takes 10 years to become a legend. The quantification of 10,000 hours becomes a professional. But I think anybody underneath that has to give themselves a little grace to say, look, I’m still growing as a practitioner. I’m not perfect. But if I continuously do these things for myself the right way and I have great mentors, like you mentioned DeMartini earlier, or Zen Master, if you have good influence and good networking, good encouragement, who knows what’s possible. But it’s not about your numbers.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  You know why it’s not about the numbers? And I’m actually, let open my heart even more. I’m going through this right now. I’m at the moment I haven’t decided yet because I think life will decide for me. Like I don’t know how to rationally make this decision. But I’m at my top of what I’m seeing my numbers in two days. And I don’t know if this is what I want because I’m loving the coaching. Even the money wise is not the same thing because I’m seeing high volume with high PVA, etc. But I’m loving the coaching and I’m starting a third project that I have no clue what’s staking me, which is I just wrote a book in Spanish. It’s going to leave me from the inside out. It’s Chiropractic principles plus all that I’ve learned after 20 years of living from the inside out. Universal loss. I was talking to David Syria the other day and I made it Spanish. Chiropractic principles and all the things that I’ve learned about coherence and personal development, Buddhism, all that kind of stuff. And I wrote a book in Spanish. Sorry if anybody speaks Spanish, they can ask me for the link. And people are loving it. My patients are like, wow, this book is great. It’s going to help with my retention, of course. But that project might open my life, my career to another path. And I might have to cut my adjusting hours. If I compare to another guy that’s seeing the 400 in four days and I might stay with 200 in a day, am I going, am I losing? Why am I comparing myself to the other guy? You know what I mean? It doesn’t make any sense. I’m following my path, which I have no clue where I’m taking. This is about surrendering to something to that universal intelligence. I’m just expressing this is a second principle, right? This is about expressing universal intelligence in matter, any universal intelligence in Ana has nothing to do with him. This is about being true to the principles. It is insane.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Yeah, I know that there’s a lot of questions I have pre-prepared for us to speak about today. I know we’re coming up on the edge of our time together today, but is there anything that was on the questionnaire that you hope to I would have asked you today that I didn’t?

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  I would love to share the miracle story.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Sure. Let’s do that. Because I know a lot of people wait to the end of our episodes to hear these miracle stories and they’re really powerful. Most of the times I give people to cry.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Well, I don’t know if people are going to cry. They’re probably going to be like, or is that a miracle story? Because I do have the typical miracle stories, but my reflection for the people today that I really want to share is that thanks to the question I have on a aliment, the reason I wanted to chiropractic was that, well, I’m sorry you’re going to die anyway. That who is anybody to tell anybody that they’re going to die? How do you know that miracle doctor telling the patients? Like, how is it going smarter? Maybe statistically they know. But sometimes I think that we know it’s like, oh, they’re going to heal. Maybe it’s their time to die. And I had a seven month old baby that was like seven years ago. No more eight or nine. Seven months old baby, the parents come through a referral. We met on a Sunday in my practice. They’re desperate. The guy, the little baby has a brain stem, two more, you know, purple. And it’s like, they don’t even want to do chemo. Like he’s dying. The mom is a nurse. It’s like, we don’t know what to do. I don’t know what you do, but I’ve heard about you. And what can you do? And it’s like, well, I do adjust. I can go, I had to pretend to be the aunt because I see you. It’s only for two adults. So for a month, I go and check him. Does the fossa reading for the Atlas every single day? And I adjust when it’s needed. The first day, the baby hadn’t slept for like 20 hours and he was on medication for sleep, right? And I go and I adjust the Atlas. The mom is like, are you done? It took us like 45 minutes. It’s like, nobody’s looking. She’s looking. Why do you like pretend like nothing is happening? After 45 minutes, I checked the false out. It’s high. So I adjust in two minutes. And the mom is like, are you done? And like, I’m done. I left three hours later. It’s like he took a nap, a three hour nap for the first time. So that baby, that two more went away. For three years. We kept adjusting him. Of course the parents. I told the parents, if I were you, I would get adjusted. You need to be connected through all this because you’re going to suffer like, shit, I don’t know if you can say this in an American podcast. And the cancer came back. Another one actually. I kept adjusting them. And at some point, the parents decide it’s over. One night, I decided to measure them. It’s like, how are you guys doing? It’s like, Ana, can you come to the hospital? We have to decide. We have decided to sedate him tonight. And we want to be adjusted. And we want you to adjust him so that he goes through transition, as connected as possible. And we are getting goosebumps. And we want to be connected as well. For me, that was the biggest lesson I’ve gotten about surrendering to what is, to that universal intelligence. The reason that’s when I got my aha moment after you asked me that, Jim. I left medical school because I didn’t want to be a smart. I didn’t want to have an ego to decide who lives, who dies. You’re going to heal your, I don’t know, because I do believe there is something bigger. I might just say, you’re going to heal as well. I don’t know. But they went like we, I facilitated just through adjusting. They’re innate to be at peace with that. And I had the same experience with my father. He died seven years ago from pancreatic cancer. I was like, dad, we can do things out there. They’re fantastic people out there doing outside in natural. Amazing. It’s like, Ana, I’m at peace. I don’t want to do anything. I’m ready. For two months, I adjusted him as like, I just need so that I can go at peace. And we talked about universal principles, about innate, how he goes at peace. He was fine at peace and verbally verbal till the day before. Surrendering to death. And he was like, that is also part of life in I’m ready. That was for me. Letting go. No ego. Just letting be surrendering to that something bigger.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Sometimes it’s a stranger. Sometimes it’s the most important person in our life.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  There are three little girls after that boy that wouldn’t be here. This is crazy to say. There are three little girls after that boy. I adjust the five of them still. They might have had all the kids. But those these little girls wouldn’t be here. If the older brother hadn’t gone.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Well, there’s so much truth and compassion in today’s episode. You’re 576 of the Chiro Hustle Podcast. If people wanted to reach out to you and maybe get the book or book you for their show, I’m more sure you send people to my Instagram account.

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Great.

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  So head over to Instagram connected Dr. Ana and see about getting her more exposure for living from the inside out book. And really appreciate you being our guest today. I feel like there was a magic connection there for telling the story of chiropractic. and if there’s people out there listening that found some value in this, just share the story. That’s how I started out working in this chiropractic profession. I heard a guy on stage telling people to share the story and it almost makes me cry, but he said tell the story, tell the story, tell the story like a million times during his talk and I was like, you know what? I’ll go do that. So he said to go tell the story. So we’ve been doing that with Chiro Hustle and this is another chiropractic story and Dr. Ana have a great night over in uh Spain and uh I close out by telling everybody you’re just one story way. Keep hustling. I’ll see you guys on the next episode and uh bye for now

DR ANA ECHEVESTE DC (GUEST):  Thank you

JAMES CHESTER (HOST):  Thanks for listening to Chiro Hustle. Don’t forget to subscribe and check back next week to continue hustling.

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